After
writing the blog about the trouble we are having with my father and the IRS (read it here), I have been overwhelmed by the
response. People have offered encouragement and tips, expressed outrage, and
have even shared their own IRS horror stories. I am so grateful to all of you
who have commented, shared my blog on Facebook and Twitter, and sent me private
messages of support.
What
I didn't talk about in the last blog is our attempts to resolve this issue with
the IRS. When my dad moved in with us after finding out about his terminal
neurological disorder, I helped him apply for disability. Not
long after he started receiving benefits, the IRS put a levy on his social
security benefits and started taking $300.00 a month. We didn't know about his
tax problem at the time, so my brother and I sat down and talked to him about
it. He said the original tax bill was somewhere around $50,000. We found out
that he sent them a check for $25,000, but could not afford to pay the entire
amount. Due to his medical condition, he had started to make bad business
decisions and had trouble keeping track of his finances including things as
simple as balancing his check book.
I
told him that the tax bill needed to be taken care of, so if the IRS was taking
$300.00 a month, that would help pay it off. After that first year, the IRS
increased the amount they were taking to 70% of what my dad was getting,
causing some financial problems for him, and also for my husband and myself
since we were having to pay more of his care costs.
In
the meantime, my brother called the IRS to find out what was going on with
dad's case. They asked him fill out a power of attorney which was standard and
then fax it to them while he was talking to them the next time. We got the
necessary paperwork and filled it out putting my brother and myself on the
power of attorney to be able to act on dad's behalf. This was in 2007.
My
brother called the IRS back and faxed the paperwork while he was talking to
them on the phone as they requested. They only gave us minimal information even
with the power of attorney and said it would take several months to process it,
so we needed to call back. We told them we needed all the paperwork concerning
our father's case, so we could get the matter resolved. They said we would have
to wait until the power of attorney was processed. We waited several months and
called back. They had no record of our power of attorney, so my brother faxed
it again and sent them certified copies by mail, but we got the same story
every time we called. This nightmarish circle continued for over a year. No
matter how many times we mailed or faxed powers of attorney, they were never
recorded or approved.
We
decided to get a certified tax specialist involved who is actually an Enrolled
Agent -- a CPA who has to take a special test administered by the IRS. These
people can act on your behalf with the IRS. She was very experienced and
accepted my father's case. When she contacted the IRS to get his paperwork, she
ran up against the same problem. No matter how many times she sent in a power
of attorney, it kept disappearing. They never registered her power of attorney.
She eventually dropped our case.
We
have continued in that same circle with them saying they want us to fill out a
power of attorney and expense/earnings report, but they never get approved or
processed, and you can NEVER speak to the same person twice. This last year, my
brother lost his mind on the IRS person he talked to, threatening a lawsuit,
and they started sending the paperwork. It still took a year and numerous phone
calls to get all of the paper work we needed to take to the new CPA.
On
the last report we received, we were relieved to see that my brother was finally
listed as having power of attorney. When they pulled this last trick and
started taking 100% of my dad's funds, leaving him with no money to live on and
no money for us to move him into the facility he needs for his care, my brother
called to try to talk to them about this issue. The person he talked to told my
brother that he didn't have power of attorney. My brother told him that he did,
and that he was listed on the paperwork we received from the IRS as having
power of attorney. They IRS employee said that he didn't and hung up on him.
I
tried to call since dad was here. I could have him talk to them and tell them
they could talk to me. When the IRS employee got dad on the phone, she started
grilling him for information until he got so upset and confused he turned red
and couldn't talk. I took the phone from him and tried to explain to the woman
that they were taking 100% of his benefits and that he needed care. I told her
I had a letter from UC Davis explaining his medical condition and his need to
be placed in a care facility. She said she didn't want to see it because it
wasn't important. She directed me to fill out a power of attorney, and
threatened to hang up on me for being upset and raising my voice.
It
has finally dawned on us that they don't want to resolve the issue as long as
they can keep taking his money. The people you talk to at the IRS are not
authorized to resolve anything. They are there to gather information and try to
get more money. Their offer to resolve tax problems is just a bunch of smoke
and mirrors to keep you running around in circles filling out forms they never
process while they continue to take your money. You have to hire professionals
to actually fight them, but they don't leave you any money to pay for it. We
were told to contact the tax advocate who helps when the IRS is not
cooperating. They told us to fill out a power of attorney.
What
started out as a $50,000.00 tax bill that my father paid $25,000.00 towards has
ballooned out of control. With interest and penalties assessed by the IRS, they
now say he owes almost $250,000.00. When we figured out the money they have
taken from his disability benefits and the $25,000.00 check he sent them, he
has paid close to $100,000.00. The $250,000.00 is what they say he still owes
for a grand total of about $350,000.00 for that initial balance of $25,000.
Omg, Michelle. :( I can't imagine what you guys are going through. Hugs and prayers for you and your family. With everything going with your dad, you shouldn't have to be dealing with greedy bastards like that.
ReplyDeleteThanks Mireille <3 It has been such a struggle. We had no idea at the beginning of this ordeal that it would spiral into such a nightmare. My poor father...I can't tell you how angry this makes me. I wanted to share because I didn't know that the IRS had so much power, and I wanted to warn other people. I knew they had a lot of power, but I had no idea they could take every penny you have to live on. It is truly scary.
DeleteWOW! I have to say that the only thing that surprises me in this whole tragedy is that your family hasn't resorted to violence! How incredibly frustrating.
ReplyDeleteI have a couple of ideas that might help that you might not have thought of yet. I would suggest you gather ALL your paperwork, even notes you took during phone conversations, and then contact every single elected official in your district, from dogcatcher to state and US senators and congressmen. They like to resolve such issues for constituents because it generates goodwill and votes.
Also contact public advocacy agencies, like your Council on Aging (can't remember the actual title) and I believe there's an equivalent agency for disabled people. They might be able to assist you in finding a way to provide the care your dad needs.
Write a book about the entire ordeal and do a media/internet blitz that proceeds will go toward obtaining justice. Government conspiracy theorists will eat it up.
At the same time, contact every single state and national level news outlet. Not just TV, but print and internet as well.
Often when a story like this receives national attention, it draws offers from professionals qualified to settle things to actually do the work pro bono. Getting a favorable settlement for people like your dad is the best advertising and they can't buy it.
I hope that helps a little, and that you get this taken care of right away.
Prayers for best of luck!
Kenra
I think this is excellent advice Kenra! I can't believe you're having to deal with this and have been dealing with it for so long! Is there a local IRS office you can physically go to and talk to someone, or do you have to talk to them on the phone? I don't know how they can legally do this to someone, it's abhorrent! Hugs darlin, to you and your family. I hope you can find a resolution and get this settled soon.
DeleteThank you both so much! Unfortunately, you have to talk to them on the phone, and there is no such thing as talking to a supervisor. We were told the tax advocate was the way to go, but they didn't help at all.
DeleteI have had several people recommend contacting politicians and news media, and I think I may have to do that. I didn't want to bring a lot of attention to my father since all of this is a little overwhelming for him. If we can't get this resolved with the current CPA, I am going to be a screaming it from the rooftops, I can tell you that. We have kept notes and we have the stack of powers of attorney we have sent over the years, including our original one from 2007.
A friend also recommended adult services, so I am going to be calling them tomorrow. They may be able to offer some in home services for him and even pay for some of his care until this matter gets resolved.
I am so grateful for all the wonderful ideas and advice :) Thank you again!
I'm so glad you were able to get your matter settled. Thanks so much for the info!
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